Xwayland | chicagovps https://www.chicagovps.net/topic/xwayland Wed, 10 Apr 2024 00:09:58 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.5 Xwayland’s Explicit GPU Synchronization Now Fully Integrated into XOrg Server https://www.chicagovps.net/blog/xwaylands-explicit-gpu-synchronization-now-fully-integrated-into-xorg-server/ https://www.chicagovps.net/blog/xwaylands-explicit-gpu-synchronization-now-fully-integrated-into-xorg-server/#respond Wed, 10 Apr 2024 00:09:58 +0000 https://www.chicagovps.net/blog/xwaylands-explicit-gpu-synchronization-now-fully-integrated-into-xorg-server/ chicagovps
Xwayland’s Explicit GPU Synchronization Now Fully Integrated into XOrg Server

Significant progress was made today toward introducing explicit GPU synchronization, with the integration of a year-long request by NVIDIA to support explicit sync in the DRI3 and Present extensions, as well as the Xwayland implementation. Just last week, KDE developer Xaver Hugl explained the importance of explicit synchronization in addressing persisting issues experienced by some […]

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Xwayland’s Explicit GPU Synchronization Now Fully Integrated into XOrg Server

Significant progress was made today toward introducing explicit GPU synchronization, with the integration of a year-long request by NVIDIA to support explicit sync in the DRI3 and Present extensions, as well as the Xwayland implementation.

Just last week, KDE developer Xaver Hugl explained the importance of explicit synchronization in addressing persisting issues experienced by some Linux users. These issues arise when using an NVIDIA graphics card with proprietary graphics drivers on Wayland during gaming or other GPU-intensive tasks.

While the explicit sync protocol has been incorporated into the Wayland protocols, it still requires implementation in several components, for instance, Wayland compositors and the proprietary NVIDIA driver. This will ensure a seamless experience when using an NVIDIA GPU on Linux.

NVIDIA’s proposal to introduce explicit GPU synchronization in the DRI3 and Present extensions, including an implementation for Xwayland, was finally merged into the XOrg Server today, after a year’s wait. The significance of this lies in Xwayland’s continued use for backwards compatibility with X11 apps on Wayland sessions.

“While we at NVIDIA may be particularly keen to have this in place, since our driver lacks implicit sync support, a general consensus seems to be forming around the idea that explicit sync is the best path forward for the Linux graphics stack,” said Erik Kurzinger. “Having both X11 and Wayland use a similar mechanism for explicit sync will simplify development for client-side drivers.”

Now, all that remains is for NVIDIA to release a new version of their proprietary graphics driver that finally supports the explicit sync protocol. As you can expect, this would open the door for more users, especially gamers, to switch to Linux, as graphical glitches will be a thing of the past.

The latest GNOME 46 desktop environment already ships with explicit sync support, which should also be implemented in the upcoming KDE Plasma 6.1 desktop environment release, due out in mid-June 2024.

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Understanding How Explicit Sync Will Solve NVIDIA/Wayland Issues: An Explanation by Developer https://www.chicagovps.net/blog/understanding-how-explicit-sync-will-solve-nvidia-wayland-issues-an-explanation-by-developer/ https://www.chicagovps.net/blog/understanding-how-explicit-sync-will-solve-nvidia-wayland-issues-an-explanation-by-developer/#respond Mon, 08 Apr 2024 00:07:47 +0000 https://www.chicagovps.net/blog/understanding-how-explicit-sync-will-solve-nvidia-wayland-issues-an-explanation-by-developer/ chicagovps
Understanding How Explicit Sync Will Solve NVIDIA/Wayland Issues: An Explanation by Developer

If you’ve ever questioned why certain Linux users encounter issues with an NVIDIA GPU on Wayland while you remain unaffected, a detailed explanation is provided by KDE developer Xaver Hugl in a recent article. It reveals how the explicit sync protocol will ultimately level the playing field for all parties. Explicit sync or explicit synchronization, […]

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Understanding How Explicit Sync Will Solve NVIDIA/Wayland Issues: An Explanation by Developer

If you’ve ever questioned why certain Linux users encounter issues with an NVIDIA GPU on Wayland while you remain unaffected, a detailed explanation is provided by KDE developer Xaver Hugl in a recent article. It reveals how the explicit sync protocol will ultimately level the playing field for all parties.

Explicit sync or explicit synchronization, as it’s recently been integrated into the Wayland protocols, might ring a bell. So what is it exactly? Essentially, it’s a new approach based on DRM synchronization objects where apps clearly convey to the graphics driver, kernel, or compositor in the userspace when the rendering process is finished.

In the past, the rendering process by apps wasn’t instant. This technique, known as “implicit sync,” sees apps documenting a queue of commands with the OpenGL or Vulkan drivers for execution by the graphics card. This might be the cause behind some users facing issues with NVIDIA and Wayland.

“This architecture enables app developers to create functioning applications with ease, but it can also lead to problems,” Xaver Hugl elaborates. “The most pertinent problem for Wayland is that the application is oblivious to the tasks it synchronizes to, and there can be instances where you inadvertently synchronize with GPU commands that bear no relevance to your task.”

With the explicit synchronization in place, these “accidental” synchronization will no longer happen. In addition, Xaver Hugl says that it will boost performance by reducing the work drivers have to do because apps will just tell them directly instead of having to figure out the dependencies of tasks from a list of commands.

“There’s been a lot of discussions around the Internet between people experiencing the issues constantly, and others not seeing any, and now you should know why it doesn’t seem to affect everyone,” explains Xaver Hugl. “This means that a lot of factors – like the apps you use, the CPU and GPU you have, the driver version, the kernel, compositor, and so on – decide whether or not you actually see the issue.”

So, long story short, the explicit sync protocol is something NVIDIA GPU users should look for this year as it is being implemented in Wayland compositors, the proprietary NVIDIA driver, and Xwayland to finally make everyone happy and encourage the Wayland adoption among NVIDIA users.

Image credits: NVIDIA Corporation (edited by Marius Nestor)

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